Posts by The Leological One

i'm growing tired of the phone calls from witness relatives proclaiming how wonderful it was that we had 203 in attendance, or 180, or 265, or whatever the number happens to be.

for whomever is calling.

someone from my old, old congregation informed me they had 203 and this person was just giddy about it.

The Leological One

I wonder how less packed it would be if people didn't feel forced to at least make "the Memorial impression" to keep from possibly being shunned by their families and friends~?

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The "Memorial" Is A Perversion Of Christ's Intent

by metatron in

it is remarkable how 6 million witnesses ( or is it 'witlesses'?

) can go thru the yearly ritual of the "memorial" without any of their.

brain cells moving them towards understanding what a sad, unchristian perversion it is.. what part of "do this in remembrance of me" is so hard to understand?

I totally agree. I remember going to a memorial not long after getting married. I was having to control myself to keep to just a whisper to my wife about how much bs the guy was trying to support by jumping from one verse to another without keeping a single one in context, skipping sentences in the middle of some verses that would have undone the point the guy was making if he'd have read them along with the rest of the sentences in each verse he mentioned.

It was also really weird seeing the emblems get passed by everybody but nobody partaking. I told my wife I'd thought about taking the emblems, but that wasn't setting to well with her at the time.

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Hi, i'm from Trinidad!

by Poodles in

are there any trinidadians in this forum?

if so, please post, would like to chat!

paula

The Leological One

I'm not sure if he's just living in Trinidad or is from there, but Trinidad/Tobago is listed as part of his profile. here's a current thread of his:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/110453/1.ashx

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Placed 6 magazines this morning

by stillajwexelder in

just thought i would let you all know, that as part of my ongoing theocratic warfare strategy i placed 6 magazines this morning.

i will be recording about 20 on my time slip though

The Leological One

I get a great thrill out of putting in false time in each month, pulling woll over the elders eyes, giving good upbuilding comments at the hall and so on. The GB have no problem beating the sheep, joining the UN and telling the friends lies and keeping them in permanent eschatoloigical expectancy - so why shouldnt I do something similar?. Let us be truthful most people just put the magazines in the Trash Bin when we have left the door anyway.

Maybe not all, but likely most do. I'd actually ask a JW to take some literature if I agreed to take their's, then when refused, I'd ask how it is that JW's can have the full truth and yet somehow not be strong enough to handle reading something to the contrary at all. That seems like a major weakness, IMO, and I'd then ask if I he/she can't take literature, if he/she would at least be willing to research some older WT literature regarding certain prophecies, etc...

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An Apostate Myth

by nicolaou in

having read both of ray franz' books and more recently 'the gentile times reconsidered' by c. o jonsson you'd be forgiven for believing that losing the 607 b.c.e date for the destruction of jerusalem would end in disaster for the society.

sorry but i just don't think so.. i'm sure many of the long-time witnesses who know the history of the society would truly have problems but most of the dubs just don't care!

think about it, remember all those dubs you used to hang out with.

The Leological One

If dates or doctrine get to hot to prove, they only have to wait for the "true light" revealed in the "book of Brian chap2 verse 6" with the release of "The Newer World Translation of the Holy Scriptures" - 2007.
Steve.

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ELDERS BREAK UP GROUP OF SISTERS - WHY?

by juni in

jw
friends

a friend told me tonight that the elders broke up a group of sisters who were all experiencing various degrees of depression and enjoyed the upbuilding association with each other.. why would they do this?

according to them for two reasons:.

because this looks bad to the cong.

The Leological One

bikerchic:

Our experience was written up in one of the Asleep articles but most of it was watered down the real experience was life changing for me and I'm sure doing that work was the beginning of opening my eyes to venturing outside of the Borg for better information than they offered in their books and mags as well as it gave me a good look at how the Elder's view outside help.

It's good to hear your and others' positive experiences even in the midst of borg oppression, and glad to see you've been able to use some of that to help you get out of the WT's total control over you.

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ELDERS BREAK UP GROUP OF SISTERS - WHY?

by juni in

jw
friends

a friend told me tonight that the elders broke up a group of sisters who were all experiencing various degrees of depression and enjoyed the upbuilding association with each other.. why would they do this?

according to them for two reasons:.

because this looks bad to the cong.

The Leological One

So depression and unhappiness are ok, they just don't want people to know about it.

Man; I'm glad my wife is no longer under the cult's influence. If she was actually getting some uplifting help from hanging out with other women from the cong and some idiot told them they couldn't anymore even though it was helping her and the others to hang out, just because people from the cong were likely just actually worried about gossip (IMO) or even honestly just didn't want it being confirmed via communicating with each other that it's possible (well... LIKELY) depression can hit a JW, I'd have a hard time containing myself from busting brother so-and-so's nose "accidentally" with a guitar, door, or whatever other nearby object could possibly be seen as unweildy and possibly accident-causing and yet fairly painful. Too bad the pain felt by those suffering long-term depression isn't so short-lived. :( Sorry if it sounds like I'm condoning violence -- just trying to convey what type of emotions this type of stupidity can incite.

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Turning in my elder book

by What-A-Coincidence in

jw
friends

damm!

my good friend who became an elder just recently wants to invite me for service because he wants to talk about a few things with me.

well ... you have not commented in months!

The Leological One

Perfect!
You could use this to your advantage. Use it as proof of some physical problem. Fatigue / Depression / Lack of Concentration / Insomnia.
You don't want to be a distraction to other in attendance and you need to take care of yourself before it gets worse.
Now's your chance to bow out/fade gracefully.
-Aude.

If it comes down to this, this isn't a bad answer, IMO. I've lost contact with a lot of people and events I used to keep up with due to insomnia and other problems that drain energy. It happens, and it causes a lack of motivation to do much. That could be an excuse to use. I hate recommending lying, but when it comes to keeping with your own family and knowing the borg doesn't care about your family staying tight, you've gotta' do what you've gotta' do.

Good luck, and don't let them push you into anything you don't want to be pushed into, conversationwise or otherwise. ;)